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		<title>by: Laurent Schneider</title>
		<link>http://laurentschneider.com/wordpress/2008/01/what-is-the-lowest-and-highest-possible-date-in-oracle.html#comment-6084</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>yes, I will have a look. thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, I will have a look. thank you
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		<title>by: Max</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Did you receive the export file?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you receive the export file?
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		<title>by: Laurent Schneider</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ok, you can mail it to me at laurentschneider&lt;b&gt;@&lt;/b&gt;yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, you can mail it to me at laurentschneider<b>@</b>yahoo.com
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		<title>by: Max</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do you want the export?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you want the export?
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		<title>by: Laurent Schneider</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Max, 
I have notice this behavior and cannot think of another method yet. Well, if you have some values, you maybe can use exp, can you?

Weird dates by the way ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,<br />
I have notice this behavior and cannot think of another method yet. Well, if you have some values, you maybe can use exp, can you?</p>
<p>Weird dates by the way <img src='http://laurentschneider.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Max</title>
		<link>http://laurentschneider.com/wordpress/2008/01/what-is-the-lowest-and-highest-possible-date-in-oracle.html#comment-6011</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Can you imagine any way how to insert a date value into a date column which is dumped as: TYP=12 LEN=7: 0,0,44,132,93,64,203?

We've found some of those values within a few rows of some table columns but using dbms_stats.convert_raw_value( '00002C845D40CB', dt ) didn't reproduce this (resulting dump: Typ=12 Len=7: 255,100,44,132,93,64,203) ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine any way how to insert a date value into a date column which is dumped as: TYP=12 LEN=7: 0,0,44,132,93,64,203?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve found some of those values within a few rows of some table columns but using dbms_stats.convert_raw_value( &#8216;00002C845D40CB&#8217;, dt ) didn&#8217;t reproduce this (resulting dump: Typ=12 Len=7: 255,100,44,132,93,64,203) &#8230;
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		<title>by: Brian Tkatch</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Interesting experiment, but it may detract from Oracle sales to archaelogical firms. Some fundamentalist Christian organizations may be encouraged to buy Oracle, however. :)"

Heathen! It's nearly a thousand years too early! Sheesh.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interesting experiment, but it may detract from Oracle sales to archaelogical firms. Some fundamentalist Christian organizations may be encouraged to buy Oracle, however. <img src='http://laurentschneider.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>Heathen! It&#8217;s nearly a thousand years too early! Sheesh.</p>
<p>:)
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		<title>by: Chen Shapira</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I will still be working when time_t wraps around. It reminded me of a nice story out of "Expert C programming":

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The on-line manual pages of the original tunefs,
 like all Berkeley commands, ended with a "Bugs" section. In this case, it read:

Bugs: 
This program should work on mounted and active file systems, but it 
doesn't. Because the superblock is not kept in the buffer cache, the 
program will only take effect if it is run on dismounted file systems; if
run on the root file system, the system must be rebooted. 
You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish.


Even better, the word-processor source had a comment in it, threatening anyone who removed that last phrase! It said:

Take this out and a UNIX Demon will dog your steps from now until the
time_t's wrap around.

When Sun, along with the rest of the world, changed to SVr4 UNIX, we lost this gem. The SVr4 manpages don't have a "Bugs" section—they renamed it "Notes" (does that fool anyone?). The "tuna fish" phrase disappeared, and the guilty party is probably being dogged by a UNIX demon to this day. Preferably lpd.

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Later in the chapter there is an exercise to the reader to find out when time_t wraps around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will still be working when time_t wraps around. It reminded me of a nice story out of &#8220;Expert C programming&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
The on-line manual pages of the original tunefs,<br />
 like all Berkeley commands, ended with a &#8220;Bugs&#8221; section. In this case, it read:</p>
<p>Bugs:<br />
This program should work on mounted and active file systems, but it<br />
doesn&#8217;t. Because the superblock is not kept in the buffer cache, the<br />
program will only take effect if it is run on dismounted file systems; if<br />
run on the root file system, the system must be rebooted.<br />
You can tune a file system, but you can&#8217;t tune a fish.</p>
<p>Even better, the word-processor source had a comment in it, threatening anyone who removed that last phrase! It said:</p>
<p>Take this out and a UNIX Demon will dog your steps from now until the<br />
time_t&#8217;s wrap around.</p>
<p>When Sun, along with the rest of the world, changed to SVr4 UNIX, we lost this gem. The SVr4 manpages don&#8217;t have a &#8220;Bugs&#8221; section—they renamed it &#8220;Notes&#8221; (does that fool anyone?). The &#8220;tuna fish&#8221; phrase disappeared, and the guilty party is probably being dogged by a UNIX demon to this day. Preferably lpd.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Later in the chapter there is an exercise to the reader to find out when time_t wraps around.
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		<title>by: Ontario Emperor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting experiment, but it may detract from Oracle sales to archaelogical firms. Some fundamentalist Christian organizations may be encouraged to buy Oracle, however. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting experiment, but it may detract from Oracle sales to archaelogical firms. Some fundamentalist Christian organizations may be encouraged to buy Oracle, however. <img src='http://laurentschneider.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Laurent Schneider</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>by the way, unless they change regulation and in case I survive the terminators, I will not have to face bug 2038 even!

&lt;code&gt;$ perl -e "use POSIX; print (ctime (2**31-1))"
Tue Jan 19 04:14:07 2038
$ perl -e "use POSIX; print (ctime (2**31))"
Fri Dec 13 21:45:52 1901
&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, unless they change regulation and in case I survive the terminators, I will not have to face bug 2038 even!</p>
<p><pre><code>$ perl -e &quot;use POSIX; print (ctime (2**31-1))&quot;
Tue Jan 19 04:14:07 2038
$ perl -e &quot;use POSIX; print (ctime (2**31))&quot;
Fri Dec 13 21:45:52 1901
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